# The subcontractor is on an Option A contract so the use of defined costs relates to valuing CE's only, in the absence of a SSoCC in the Subcontract. With this in mind, is holiday accrual now irrelevant? **URL:** \ **Category:** SOCC SSOCC\ **Created:** [4 December 2013 19:29 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/the-subcontractor-is-on-an-option-a-contract-so-the-use-of-defined-costs-relates-to-valuing-ces-only-in-the-absence-of-a-ssocc-in-the-subcontract-with-this-in-mind-is-holiday-accrual-now-irrelevant/3111 "2013-12-04T19:29:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Simphi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Simphi](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Simphi)\ **Post date:** [4 December 2013 19:29 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/the-subcontractor-is-on-an-option-a-contract-so-the-use-of-defined-costs-relates-to-valuing-ces-only-in-the-absence-of-a-ssocc-in-the-subcontract-with-this-in-mind-is-holiday-accrual-now-irrelevant/3111/1 "2013-12-04T19:29:05Z")
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**Author:** ![Jon\_Broome](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/reachback.builtintelligence.com/jon_broome/32/192_2.png) [@Jon\_Broome](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Jon_Broome)\ **Post date:** [5 December 2013 10:41 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/the-subcontractor-is-on-an-option-a-contract-so-the-use-of-defined-costs-relates-to-valuing-ces-only-in-the-absence-of-a-ssocc-in-the-subcontract-with-this-in-mind-is-holiday-accrual-now-irrelevant/3111/2 "2013-12-05T10:41:48Z")
Simphi, before I answer this, can you tell me whether you are asking this as a Contractor or an Employer’s person i.e. the Project Manager or delegate ? Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Simphi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Simphi](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Simphi)\ **Post date:** [5 December 2013 23:24 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/the-subcontractor-is-on-an-option-a-contract-so-the-use-of-defined-costs-relates-to-valuing-ces-only-in-the-absence-of-a-ssocc-in-the-subcontract-with-this-in-mind-is-holiday-accrual-now-irrelevant/3111/3 "2013-12-05T23:24:26Z")
Jon. I’m asking this as a Contractor. My question is related to a previous question raised by Lockerbie Phil which you answered, but I’m not sure the original question was correctly posed. You may prove me wrong though! I am also intigued as to what the difference would be if I was the Employer - I’m not sure if you are alluding to a different arangement. As a Contractor, we are encountering a similar discussion point in a Contractor to Employer capacity, in that accruals are being disallowed. ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Broome](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/reachback.builtintelligence.com/jon_broome/32/192_2.png) [@Jon\_Broome](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Jon_Broome)\ **Post date:** [6 December 2013 09:40 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/the-subcontractor-is-on-an-option-a-contract-so-the-use-of-defined-costs-relates-to-valuing-ces-only-in-the-absence-of-a-ssocc-in-the-subcontract-with-this-in-mind-is-holiday-accrual-now-irrelevant/3111/4 "2013-12-06T09:40:48Z")
Simphi : You, as a Contractor, are paid what you pay and are forecast to be pay out by the the next assessment date. This has to be in accordance with your subcontracts, otherwise it is a Disallowed Cost. In which case, I think my answer to this question is relevant : [http://reachback.builtintelligence.com/6667/what-components-included-within-ssocc-option-peoples-cost](http://reachback.builtintelligence.com/6667/what-components-included-within-ssocc-option-peoples-cost). If that doesn’t answer it (as best I can), please give more details !