# NEC ECC: Removal of scope **URL:** \ **Category:** General\ **Created:** [2 June 2017 16:08 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-removal-of-scope/4130 "2017-06-02T16:08:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![system](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/reachback.builtintelligence.com/system/32/1709_2.png) [@system](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/system)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2017 16:08 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-removal-of-scope/4130/1 "2017-06-02T16:08:16Z")
Under option C if there is a removal of scope I would usually raise a negative CE to reduce the scope. What about option A? The job was priced as a lump sum, however a section of scope is being removed by the client. Should a negative CE be removed to reduce final cost? Or as it was lump sum project should that be the final cost? ---
**Author:** ![dave\_bates](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/reachback.builtintelligence.com/dave_bates/32/55_2.png) [@dave\_bates](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/dave_bates)\ **Post date:** [2 June 2017 16:51 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-removal-of-scope/4130/2 "2017-06-02T16:51:00Z")
If there has been a CE to reduce the scope, and provided that the core clauses have not been amended, then a negative compensation event should be assessed to reflect the saving in Defined Cost + Fee of not doing the work (considering any change in risk profile etc).By agreement the saving/reduction could be based on something else. ---
**Author:** ![dave\_meller](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/reachback.builtintelligence.com/dave_meller/32/55_2.png) [@dave\_meller](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/dave_meller)\ **Post date:** [5 June 2017 11:55 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-removal-of-scope/4130/3 "2017-06-05T11:55:21Z")
Under Clause 60.1(1) a change to the scope (which is still called the works information under NEC3, and will only be called the Scope under NEC4) is a compensation event with only two exceptions as noted in that clause. The change still constitutes a compensation event irrespective of whether it adds cost or time, reduces cost or time, or is ultimately determined to have no effect on either, so the PM should always notify a CE for any change to the WI, irrespective of the particular main option. ---
**Author:** ![Jon\_Broome](https://dub1.discourse-cdn.com/flex013/user_avatar/reachback.builtintelligence.com/jon_broome/32/192_2.png) [@Jon\_Broome](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Jon_Broome)\ **Post date:** [5 June 2017 11:56 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-removal-of-scope/4130/4 "2017-06-05T11:56:38Z")
The clause Dave points to below is option A clause 63.14. Note rates and lumps may only be used AS A BASIS by AGREEMENT !