# SOCC SSOCC **URL:** https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/c/nec3-and-nec4-contracts/socc-ssocc/29.md?page=1 [Latest](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/tags.md) **Page:** 2 --- ## [NEC ECC: How are Prices reviewed for a compensation event that is an instruction from the Employer?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-how-are-prices-reviewed-for-a-compensation-event-that-is-an-instruction-from-the-employer/5953)
**Author:** [@ennzo1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/ennzo1)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [26 June 2020 07:52 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-how-are-prices-reviewed-for-a-compensation-event-that-is-an-instruction-from-the-employer/5953 "2020-06-26T07:52:42Z")
How are Prices reviewed for a compensation event that is an instruction from the Employer? --- ## [NEC ECC: Interpretation of NEC4 SOCC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-interpretation-of-nec4-socc/5950)
**Author:** [@matthewroulson](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/matthewroulson)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [25 June 2020 11:44 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-interpretation-of-nec4-socc/5950 "2020-06-25T11:44:02Z")
We are engaged as the Client on an NEC4 Option C contract. On their latest payment application, the Contractor has applied for IT costs related to equipment (e.g. laptops) and software (e.g. Microsoft Office, various sit… --- ## [NEC ECC: Same Subcontract fee percentage applied to subcontracts under option A and C?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-same-subcontract-fee-percentage-applied-to-subcontracts-under-option-a-and-c/5923)
**Author:** [@anonymous1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/anonymous1)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [16 June 2020 11:49 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-same-subcontract-fee-percentage-applied-to-subcontracts-under-option-a-and-c/5923 "2020-06-16T11:49:05Z")
A Contractor has been engaged under option C target cost contract. They have stated a direct fee percentage and a subcontract fee percentage in their ECC contract data part 2. Let’s say there are two subcontracts (subby… --- ## [NEC ECC: Under an option C contract, how would items that have been instructed by the Project Manager be covered in the defined cost?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-under-an-option-c-contract-how-would-items-that-have-been-instructed-by-the-project-manager-be-covered-in-the-defined-cost/5920)
**Author:** [@Ahmed](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Ahmed)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [16 June 2020 09:51 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-under-an-option-c-contract-how-would-items-that-have-been-instructed-by-the-project-manager-be-covered-in-the-defined-cost/5920 "2020-06-16T09:51:49Z")
For example, if the project manager instructs purchase of items like special types of printer papers, where is this covered in SCC? --- ## [NEC3 Option C disallowed Subcontractor costs](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-option-c-disallowed-subcontractor-costs/5838)
**Author:** [@Cowboygeorge](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Cowboygeorge)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [12 May 2020 08:20 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-option-c-disallowed-subcontractor-costs/5838 "2020-05-12T08:20:13Z")
We are the main Contractor on an NEC3 option C contract. We have multiple option A contracts with suppliers who are manufacturing mechanical components for us. There has been issues with design that have caused significa… --- ## [NEC ECC: Defined Cost - Furlough Top Up Payments](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-defined-cost-furlough-top-up-payments/5789)
**Author:** [@xfinns](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/xfinns)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [23 April 2020 09:46 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-defined-cost-furlough-top-up-payments/5789 "2020-04-23T09:46:02Z")
If a Contractor pays any discretionary top up to a furlough amount paid by the Government, is this recoverable as Defined Cost e.g. as a component of wages and salaries paid to People? Under NEC, the Contractor has a du… --- ## [NEC ECC: Design Costs under the schedule of cost components](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-design-costs-under-the-schedule-of-cost-components/5773)
**Author:** [@Clarkm](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Clarkm)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [16 April 2020 13:05 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-design-costs-under-the-schedule-of-cost-components/5773 "2020-04-16T13:05:21Z")
We are a Joint Venture (Main Contractor and Designer) currently tendering for a Design and build project based on an NEC4 ECC Option C contract. The potential client believes the cost of the designers staff is recovered… --- ## [NEC ECC: Severance cost for People incurred under SSCC (during Covid-19 period)](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-severance-cost-for-people-incurred-under-sscc-during-covid-19-period/5763)
**Author:** [@chris.everett](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/chris.everett)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [9 April 2020 11:18 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-severance-cost-for-people-incurred-under-sscc-during-covid-19-period/5763 "2020-04-09T11:18:50Z")
The SSCC at 12(f) includes “severance related to work on this contract.” Where an employees work has come to an end, either because; (a) the work has finished on the project and the business has no more work for that p… --- ## [NEC ECC: Is it correct to use 2019 CECA rates in lieu of 2011 CECA rates after the original completion date?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-is-it-correct-to-use-2019-ceca-rates-in-lieu-of-2011-ceca-rates-after-the-original-completion-date/5736)
**Author:** [@Duke](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Duke)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [1 April 2020 21:25 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-is-it-correct-to-use-2019-ceca-rates-in-lieu-of-2011-ceca-rates-after-the-original-completion-date/5736 "2020-04-01T21:25:49Z")
Contract Data Part Two states under optional statements that: ‘The published list of equipment is the last edition of the list published by CECA.’ At the time of the contract being executed the ‘last edition of the lis… --- ## [NEC4 ECC: Option B: completion of data for sscc](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-ecc-option-b-completion-of-data-for-sscc/5647)
**Author:** [@Ian.Murphy](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Ian.Murphy)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [28 February 2020 16:25 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-ecc-option-b-completion-of-data-for-sscc/5647 "2020-02-28T16:25:00Z")
In completing a tender for a project, which is procured under NEC4, Option B, we find that the drafter of the documents has specified the categories of person the be rated in Section 6, data for the Shorter Schedule of C… --- ## [NEC ECS: Subcontractors category removed from schedule of cost components](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecs-subcontractors-category-removed-from-schedule-of-cost-components/5623)
**Author:** [@Daryl](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Daryl)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [17 February 2020 13:46 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecs-subcontractors-category-removed-from-schedule-of-cost-components/5623 "2020-02-17T13:46:51Z")
I’ve been looking through the Schedule of Cost Components and noticed that the client has removed the Subcontractors section completely. What effect will this have on the Contract? --- ## [NEC ECC: For an Option A contract, when measuring a CE should you use the agreed Contract Data Part 2 labour rates?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-for-an-option-a-contract-when-measuring-a-ce-should-you-use-the-agreed-contract-data-part-2-labour-rates/5618)
**Author:** [@CleKav](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/CleKav)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [14 February 2020 17:10 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-for-an-option-a-contract-when-measuring-a-ce-should-you-use-the-agreed-contract-data-part-2-labour-rates/5618 "2020-02-14T17:10:17Z")
For some background, we have an Option A Contract down the line to our subcontractor and an Option E with the client. We have agreed labour rates in our Contract Data Part Two (down the line) explicating stating the rate… --- ## [NEC ECC: Is cost of fuel for machines on site recoverable within the SCC?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-is-cost-of-fuel-for-machines-on-site-recoverable-within-the-scc/5513)
**Author:** [@anonymous1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/anonymous1)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [24 January 2020 16:43 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-is-cost-of-fuel-for-machines-on-site-recoverable-within-the-scc/5513 "2020-01-24T16:43:14Z")
NEC3 ECC option C. We are using excavators and dumper trucks on site which are clearly recoverable under equipment of the SCC. What about the fuel that we are using to run the machines? Where under the SCC does it state … --- ## [NEC ECC: Audit of people costs as per the Option E SCC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-audit-of-people-costs-as-per-the-option-e-scc/5407)
**Author:** [@Hrunner](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Hrunner)\ **Replies:** 4\ **Last updated:** [22 November 2019 07:42 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-audit-of-people-costs-as-per-the-option-e-scc/5407 "2019-11-22T07:42:17Z")
NEC 3 - Option E - Contractor currently applies a day rate to each individual when working within the Working Area (Providing the Works). We are conducting a people costs audit to ensure day rates are in line with the Sc… --- ## [NEC ECC: Is Working Area Overhead a Defined Cost?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-is-working-area-overhead-a-defined-cost/5412)
**Author:** [@Hrunner](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Hrunner)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [21 November 2019 07:05 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-is-working-area-overhead-a-defined-cost/5412 "2019-11-21T07:05:45Z")
As per Clause 63.1 under Option C, the change of the prices for a CE are Actual Defined Cost of works already done, the forecast of Defined Cost of the works not yet done and the resulting Fee. Resulting Fee is calculat… --- ## [NEC ECC: People cost justification within SCC audit?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-people-cost-justification-within-scc-audit/5408)
**Author:** [@anonymous1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/anonymous1)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [19 November 2019 08:14 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-people-cost-justification-within-scc-audit/5408 "2019-11-19T08:14:23Z")
I’m looking for advise on auditing people costs as per the SCC with NEC 3 option E. we are currently supplied rates within the Application for payment and now conducting an audit to turn into actual cost. Staff on the pr… --- ## [NEC ECC: Freelance project manager - Subcontract Fee or Direct Fee percentage?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-freelance-project-manager-subcontract-fee-or-direct-fee-percentage/5395)
**Author:** [@WatersideSurveyor](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/WatersideSurveyor)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [13 November 2019 19:18 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-freelance-project-manager-subcontract-fee-or-direct-fee-percentage/5395 "2019-11-13T19:18:11Z")
We are working on an Option E Contract. The Employer has asked to change the fee percentage claimed for PM and his team as they are self employed. They say that they are a Subcontractor and should have subcontract fee pe… --- ## [NEC ECC: Quotations under NEC3 ECC - for subcontracted elements](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-quotations-under-nec3-ecc-for-subcontracted-elements/5371)
**Author:** [@cameronstaude](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/cameronstaude)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [5 November 2019 07:37 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-quotations-under-nec3-ecc-for-subcontracted-elements/5371 "2019-11-05T07:37:59Z")
I have been searching for literature where a detailed explanation of producing a quotation for a compensation event for Option B - ECC contract is used which also includes a portion of subcontracted works. Can anyone as… --- ## [NEC ECC: Under Option B, how is Defined Cost applied to a compensation event?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-under-option-b-how-is-defined-cost-applied-to-a-compensation-event/5363)
**Author:** [@Mario](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Mario)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [1 November 2019 09:49 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-under-option-b-how-is-defined-cost-applied-to-a-compensation-event/5363 "2019-11-01T09:49:13Z")
We are currently engaged in an NEC3 ECC Option B Contract with our Employer and are the stage where 99% of the physical works are complete which has been spread across a two year installation programme. For one reason o… --- ## [NEC ECC: Option C - Expenses Disallowed](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-option-c-expenses-disallowed/5358)
**Author:** [@peter\_johnson](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/peter_johnson)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [30 October 2019 17:48 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-option-c-expenses-disallowed/5358 "2019-10-30T17:48:55Z")
NEC3 ECC Option C contract. We are the Contractor and have travel expenses costs (flights etc) that are backed up by invoice evidence. The client is making his own assessment/disallowing some of these travel costs on t… --- ## [NEC ECC: What exactly should be included within the fee?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-what-exactly-should-be-included-within-the-fee/5357)
**Author:** [@anonymous1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/anonymous1)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [29 October 2019 18:13 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-what-exactly-should-be-included-within-the-fee/5357 "2019-10-29T18:13:31Z")
Is there a schedule of what is included in fee percentages, other than everything not in defined cost? --- ## [NEC ECC: People Defined Cost Rates](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-people-defined-cost-rates/5337)
**Author:** [@peter\_johnson](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/peter_johnson)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [20 October 2019 20:40 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-people-defined-cost-rates/5337 "2019-10-20T20:40:08Z")
NEC3 ECC Option C We have Defined Cost rates per hour that have been agreed by the Client and used to calculate amounts due in payment applications. These hourly rates are based on a 50 hour working week within the Wor… --- ## [NEC ECC: Option B - Defined Cost for CE Assessment](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-option-b-defined-cost-for-ce-assessment/5308)
**Author:** [@Sean](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Sean)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [7 October 2019 16:56 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-option-b-defined-cost-for-ce-assessment/5308 "2019-10-07T16:56:04Z")
I am involved in assessing CE quotations under an ECC Option B contract and the Contractor has submitted “old fashioned” time related prelim charges such as Director, QS, Contracts Manager etc. I have responded stating … --- ## [NEC ECC: What is included in 'buying & leasing land' within schedule of cost components?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-what-is-included-in-buying-leasing-land-within-schedule-of-cost-components/5302)
**Author:** [@Ste\_M](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Ste_M)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [3 October 2019 08:01 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-what-is-included-in-buying-leasing-land-within-schedule-of-cost-components/5302 "2019-10-03T08:01:24Z")
We are operating an NEC3 ECC Option E Contract. In section 43 of the SCC item (b) it states that payments for buying and leasing land is defined cost. We have a main Contractor that has used a part of their office spac… --- ## [NEC3 ECC: Option C - The meaning of "Directly Employed" under People in SOCC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-option-c-the-meaning-of-directly-employed-under-people-in-socc/5285)
**Author:** [@acheung](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/acheung)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [23 September 2019 07:12 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-option-c-the-meaning-of-directly-employed-under-people-in-socc/5285 "2019-09-23T07:12:36Z")
According to SOCC, the cost of people who are directly employed by the Contractor can be classified as the Defined Cost. This is indisputable. However, the Contractor is formed by “an Unincorporated (Contractual) Joint … --- ## [NEC ECS: Subcontract Working Area Differs from Head Contract](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecs-subcontract-working-area-differs-from-head-contract/5282)
**Author:** [@WatersideSurveyor](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/WatersideSurveyor)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [18 September 2019 11:56 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecs-subcontract-working-area-differs-from-head-contract/5282 "2019-09-18T11:56:07Z")
On an Option E Contract, the Employer has disallowed cost from our Subcontractor for working outside of the working area stated within the head contract. The Subcontractor has listed their premises as working area within… --- ## [NEC ECC: Normal Place of Work](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-normal-place-of-work/5263)
**Author:** [@Ste\_M](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Ste_M)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [3 September 2019 09:17 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-normal-place-of-work/5263 "2019-09-03T09:17:13Z")
in an NEC3 ECC contract does a designer whose normal place of work is outside the working area apply for their costs whilst inside the working area? there is, in SCC1, a statement about staff whose normal place of work … --- ## [NEC PSC: Option E staff rates](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-psc-option-e-staff-rates/5252)
**Author:** [@SGilbs](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/SGilbs)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [2 September 2019 08:26 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-psc-option-e-staff-rates/5252 "2019-09-02T08:26:29Z")
Aside from the named Key People, the staff rates were included as categories/ roles due to the services being carried out by a larger number of staff. No CVs were issued for those people (or requested) and nor were the k… --- ## [NEC ECC: Can you be paid for working outside of the Working Areas?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-can-you-be-paid-for-working-outside-of-the-working-areas/5154)
**Author:** [@Jon\_Graham](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Jon_Graham)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [4 July 2019 11:44 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-can-you-be-paid-for-working-outside-of-the-working-areas/5154 "2019-07-04T11:44:29Z")
While working on an NEC3 Option E Contract, the Contractor has recently suffered numerous delays getting to site as a result of Official Strike action by another Contractor which involved picketing the gates. The Strike … --- ## [NEC ECC: Do Labour rates in the SSOCC include the direct fee?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-do-labour-rates-in-the-ssocc-include-the-direct-fee/5051)
**Author:** [@Formwork18](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Formwork18)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [3 May 2019 15:16 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-do-labour-rates-in-the-ssocc-include-the-direct-fee/5051 "2019-05-03T15:16:01Z")
We are working on an Option A contract and within a CE quote have built up our people and equipment costs using the SSCC and then applied the direct fee to these as well. This has been queried as being a fee on a fee. [Previous page](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/c/nec3-and-nec4-contracts/socc-ssocc/29.md) [Next page](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/c/nec3-and-nec4-contracts/socc-ssocc/29.md?page=2)