# SOCC SSOCC **URL:** https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/c/nec3-and-nec4-contracts/socc-ssocc/29.md [Latest](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/latest.md) · [Categories](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/categories.md) · [Tags](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/tags.md) --- ## [About the SOCC SSOCC category](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/about-the-socc-ssocc-category/34)
**Author:** [@system](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/system)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [27 February 2020 19:05 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/about-the-socc-ssocc-category/34 "2020-02-27T19:05:57Z")
(Replace this first paragraph with a brief description of your new category. This guidance will appear in the category selection area, so try to keep it below 200 characters.) Use the following paragraphs for a longer d… --- ## [NEC3 SOCC 12 (d) special allowances - can maternity pay be considered a recoverable cost?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-socc-12-d-special-allowances-can-maternity-pay-be-considered-a-recoverable-cost/22368)
**Author:** [@l.mikosza](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/l.mikosza)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [22 June 2025 16:31 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-socc-12-d-special-allowances-can-maternity-pay-be-considered-a-recoverable-cost/22368 "2025-06-22T16:31:32Z")
Hi, The Client has challenged maternity and paternity pay as being non–Defined Cost under the Contract, on the basis that it does not fall under absence due to sickness or holidays as outlined in SOCC 12(e). I was wond… --- ## [Competitiveness of SOCC 1 people cost](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/competitiveness-of-socc-1-people-cost/22153)
**Author:** [@aaa](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/aaa)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [11 March 2025 11:54 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/competitiveness-of-socc-1-people-cost/22153 "2025-03-11T11:54:47Z")
For a NEC4 Option C contract, for payment to agency staff, the wages are paid under SOCC14. What should the firm of providing the agency staff be categorized as? Should not be Subcontractor according to Clause 11.2(25)… --- ## [NEC 4 Option C - SCCO, calculation of hourly rate to determine Define Cost](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-4-option-c-scco-calculation-of-hourly-rate-to-determine-define-cost/22163)
**Author:** [@ivan.lee](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/ivan.lee)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [5 March 2025 15:04 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-4-option-c-scco-calculation-of-hourly-rate-to-determine-define-cost/22163 "2025-03-05T15:04:32Z")
Hi, Our consultant used the yearly salary paid to the employee, divided that by \[(52 weeks \*37.5 hours) - 10 public holidays - 25 days vacation) to calculate the hourly Defined Cost. Is this correct? As far as I know, … --- ## [NEC4 Option C SOCC Sick Pay](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-option-c-socc-sick-pay/22028)
**Author:** [@WatersideSurveyor](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/WatersideSurveyor)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [4 December 2024 09:12 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-option-c-socc-sick-pay/22028 "2024-12-04T09:12:32Z")
We have recently had members of staff of sick. We have SOCC build-ups for each person giving a total cost to employ and divided this by the available working hours to give an hourly cost. When the member of staff is off … --- ## [NEC4 Items Previously Covered by Overhead Percentage (NEC3)](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-items-previously-covered-by-overhead-percentage-nec3/21847)
**Author:** [@MJR](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/MJR)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [7 August 2024 09:35 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-items-previously-covered-by-overhead-percentage-nec3/21847 "2024-08-07T09:35:10Z")
When reviewing the NEC4 SCC/SSCC it is clear that most items previously associated with the NEC3 overhead percentages can be re-attributed elsewhere within the schedules. However, NEC4 seems to have removed reference to … --- ## [PSC4 - People or Subcontractor](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/psc4-people-or-subcontractor/21663)
**Author:** [@Badgerbitter](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Badgerbitter)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [25 April 2024 08:01 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/psc4-people-or-subcontractor/21663 "2024-04-25T08:01:29Z")
I am aware this topic has been debated at length, but thought it may be worthwhile seeking opinion in this particular circumstance. We are engaged on a PSC4 Option E Contract. To augment our existing design team, we hav… --- ## [What does the term Subsistence cover in terms of Defined Costs under SOCC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/what-does-the-term-subsistence-cover-in-terms-of-defined-costs-under-socc/18846)
**Author:** [@abul.jamil](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/abul.jamil)\ **Replies:** 0\ **Last updated:** [13 October 2022 16:22 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/what-does-the-term-subsistence-cover-in-terms-of-defined-costs-under-socc/18846 "2022-10-13T16:22:57Z")
What does the term Subsistence cover? Does it cover accomodation, food, travel, etc. all, or some? Is this a defined term under NEC3 and/or should we define it within the Subcontracts so both parties know where they sta… --- ## [NEC ECS Option A - SSOCC - Items not listed](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecs-option-a-ssocc-items-not-listed/21250)
**Author:** [@KD191](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/KD191)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [27 August 2023 02:15 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecs-option-a-ssocc-items-not-listed/21250 "2023-08-27T02:15:33Z")
Hi all, Scenario; Main Contractor is assessing a valid CE claim from a Subcontractor The Subcontractor is claiming for both Van & Fuel (£80) Main Contractors checks the SSOCC and find no mention of Van listed Main C… --- ## [NEC ECC Option C - Equipment rates](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-option-c-equipment-rates/6013)
**Author:** [@DQS](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/DQS)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [23 July 2023 13:11 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-option-c-equipment-rates/6013 "2023-07-23T13:11:29Z")
The Employer has just entered into a contract with a Contractor which didn’t have an Equipment list included in Contract Data Part 2. The Contractor owns the majority of the Equipment to be used on the project so we now … --- ## [NEC3 - ECC3 Option A SSOCC - Contingency Provision in Quotation](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc3-option-a-ssocc-contingency-provision-in-quotation/19704)
**Author:** [@Badgerbitter](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Badgerbitter)\ **Replies:** 5\ **Last updated:** [23 July 2023 12:43 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc3-option-a-ssocc-contingency-provision-in-quotation/19704 "2023-07-23T12:43:10Z")
We are a Subcontractor operating under the terms of an NEC3 ECC3 Option A (not ECS3). We have a query relating to a quotation under discussion and the addition of a one line contingency (6%) to address the constraints w… --- ## [NEC3 ECC Option C: Equipment repair and maintenance](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-option-c-equipment-repair-and-maintenance/21015)
**Author:** [@Kat21](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Kat21)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [23 July 2023 11:07 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-option-c-equipment-repair-and-maintenance/21015 "2023-07-23T11:07:08Z")
I have two questions on Equipment repair and maintenance: In accordance with Equipment 26, the cost for transporting Equipment to and from the Working Areas other than for repair and maintenance is paid for unless inc… --- ## [NEC 3 & 4 SOCC - Fuel, Oils, Lubricants & Other Consumables used in relation to hired Equipment](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-3-4-socc-fuel-oils-lubricants-other-consumables-used-in-relation-to-hired-equipment/19431)
**Author:** [@derek.mellon](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/derek.mellon)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [5 January 2023 17:36 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-3-4-socc-fuel-oils-lubricants-other-consumables-used-in-relation-to-hired-equipment/19431 "2023-01-05T17:36:19Z")
Working on an ITT that utilises NEC 4 - Option E and upon review of the SOCC it’s not clear where Fuel, Oils, Lubricants and other consumables associated with the hire and ongoing use of equipment are captured. I believ… --- ## [NEC4 Employers Liability in SoCC under People](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-employers-liability-in-socc-under-people/17135)
**Author:** [@swiltshire](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/swiltshire)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [24 March 2022 16:23 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-employers-liability-in-socc-under-people/17135 "2022-03-24T16:23:07Z")
The wording in the Schedule of Cost Components People has been changed between NEC3 and NEC4 on People 13(i), in NEC4 it reads 13(i) contributions, levies or taxes imposed by law. Is Employers Liability still recoverable… --- ## [Payments made in relation to People for Pensions](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/payments-made-in-relation-to-people-for-pensions/16573)
**Author:** [@LHQS](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/LHQS)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [29 November 2021 10:49 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/payments-made-in-relation-to-people-for-pensions/16573 "2021-11-29T10:49:57Z")
The NEC ECC Option E SoCC states that Payments made in relation to People for Pensions is a Defined Cost and as such is recoverable. My question is what payments exactly? Pension contributions directly to the employee’s … --- ## [NEC3 - ECC - SOCC - Expenses](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-socc-expenses/8004)
**Author:** [@AndrewDDix](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/AndrewDDix)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [15 March 2021 15:32 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-socc-expenses/8004 "2021-03-15T15:32:36Z")
The Contractor and Employer are working on an NEC3 ECC Option E Contract. The Contractors core staff team are based a significant distance from the Employers heads office and travel from their homes to the office each d… --- ## [NEC3 Supply Contract SOCC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-supply-contract-socc/7823)
**Author:** [@WatersideSurveyor](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/WatersideSurveyor)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [23 February 2021 10:17 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-supply-contract-socc/7823 "2021-02-23T10:17:13Z")
Under NEC3 Supply contract there is no SOCC. I know this has been added in NEC4 and seems to simply ask for People Rates without a breakdown of what is included. For NEC3 how are the defined costs rates built up? There i… --- ## [Sub contractor equipment cost](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/sub-contractor-equipment-cost/6995)
**Author:** [@Drummond\_4](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/Drummond_4)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [14 January 2021 11:20 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/sub-contractor-equipment-cost/6995 "2021-01-14T11:20:00Z")
I am working on an option A, NEC 3 project. The Contractor has specified the following fee percentages - direct, sub contracted, adjustment for Equipment and people overheads. The main Contractor has sub contracted a s… --- ## [NEC3 ECC - Shorter Schedule of Cost Components Percentages](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-shorter-schedule-of-cost-components-percentages/6922)
**Author:** [@bb\_alabi1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/bb_alabi1)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [8 January 2021 10:35 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-shorter-schedule-of-cost-components-percentages/6922 "2021-01-08T10:35:16Z")
I was hoping that the reachback community would be able to help me with the theory of how to apply %’s on the example I have below. Contract is NEC ECC Option A Direct Fee is 9.5% Subcontracted Fee is 9.5% Working Ar… --- ## [NEC 3 SOCC - Medicine Reimbursements](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-3-socc-medicine-reimbursements/6891)
**Author:** [@avelinosescolano](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/avelinosescolano)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [4 January 2021 14:11 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-3-socc-medicine-reimbursements/6891 "2021-01-04T14:11:44Z")
NEC3 ECC Option D – Schedule of Cost Components – Medicine Reimbursements Contractors Position Under the employment contracts of some of the Contractor’s people, there is an entitlement for medicine reimbursements and … --- ## [SSCC Equipment List - Non Existent](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/sscc-equipment-list-non-existent/6858)
**Author:** [@luke.clithero](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/luke.clithero)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [4 January 2021 13:29 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/sscc-equipment-list-non-existent/6858 "2021-01-04T13:29:01Z")
Hello, I was just wondering what equipment schedule should be used to value CEs and/or Cost Reimbursable Contracts if there isn’t one defined in the Contract? --- ## [Defined Cost - Percentages - Option A contract](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/defined-cost-percentages-option-a-contract/6896)
**Author:** [@bb\_alabi1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/bb_alabi1)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [31 December 2020 10:44 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/defined-cost-percentages-option-a-contract/6896 "2020-12-31T10:44:54Z")
I was hoping that the reachback community would be able to help me with the theory of how to apply %’s on the example I have below. Contract is NEC ECC Option A Direct Fee is 9.5% Subcontracted Fee is 9.5% Working Ar… --- ## [NEC3 ECC Option D – Schedule of Cost Components – Health Insurance](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-option-d-schedule-of-cost-components-health-insurance/6892)
**Author:** [@avelinosescolano](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/avelinosescolano)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [16 October 2020 06:31 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-option-d-schedule-of-cost-components-health-insurance/6892 "2020-10-16T06:31:01Z")
NEC3 ECC Option D – Schedule of Cost Components – Health Insurance Contractor’s Position Under the employment contracts of some of the Contractor’s people, there is an entitlement for health insurance. The Contractor … --- ## [NEC 3 - Headhunter's fee](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-3-headhunters-fee/6889)
**Author:** [@avelinosescolano](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/avelinosescolano)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [16 October 2020 06:17 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-3-headhunters-fee/6889 "2020-10-16T06:17:47Z")
NEC3 ECC Option D – Schedule of Cost Components – Headhunter’s fee The Contractor used the services of a headhunter agency to bring on board to the Project two (2) of its key People, the Construction Manager and the ES… --- ## [NEC3 ECC Schedule of Cost Compenents - Charges 4 - Specialist Services 43(h)](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-schedule-of-cost-compenents-charges-4-specialist-services-43-h/5070)
**Author:** [@J\_Hill](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/J_Hill)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [4 September 2020 07:35 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec3-ecc-schedule-of-cost-compenents-charges-4-specialist-services-43-h/5070 "2020-09-04T07:35:40Z")
What types of costs could be included as ‘Specialist Services’ under Charges (4 - 43(h)) within the Schedule of Cost Components? --- ## [NEC4 ECC: Option C - Self Isolation covered under the SCC during Covid-19 period?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-ecc-option-c-self-isolation-covered-under-the-scc-during-covid-19-period/5904)
**Author:** [@ShankarMistry](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/ShankarMistry)\ **Replies:** 3\ **Last updated:** [8 July 2020 11:08 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec4-ecc-option-c-self-isolation-covered-under-the-scc-during-covid-19-period/5904 "2020-07-08T11:08:21Z")
Acting on behalf of the Client, I have recently come across the Contractor applying for costs for staff (who are usually Proving the Works within the Working Area) who are self isolating and as a result, not currently Pr… --- ## [NEC ECC: Change of CECA Rates When Pricing a Initial And Revised Compensation Event Quotations](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-change-of-ceca-rates-when-pricing-a-initial-and-revised-compensation-event-quotations/5978)
**Author:** [@matthewroulson](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/matthewroulson)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [3 July 2020 11:01 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-change-of-ceca-rates-when-pricing-a-initial-and-revised-compensation-event-quotations/5978 "2020-07-03T11:01:34Z")
Two parts to the question, relating to the timing of compensation events and the application of CECA rates for plant. This question is asked in relation to an NEC3 Option A contract (formed in 2017) and based on the assu… --- ## [NEC ECC: Addition of fee to CECA Equipment Rates](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-addition-of-fee-to-ceca-equipment-rates/5977)
**Author:** [@matthewroulson](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/matthewroulson)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [3 July 2020 01:17 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-addition-of-fee-to-ceca-equipment-rates/5977 "2020-07-03T01:17:58Z")
The CECA Schedule of Contractors Equipment Rates (2019) states under Section B-6: The rates provide for Head Office charges and profit. Upon pricing a compensation event, is the Contractor entitled to apply their fee pe… --- ## [NEC ECC: CECA Rates within a Compensation Event](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-ceca-rates-within-a-compensation-event/5814)
**Author:** [@AE009](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/AE009)\ **Replies:** 2\ **Last updated:** [2 July 2020 13:20 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-ceca-rates-within-a-compensation-event/5814 "2020-07-02T13:20:14Z")
Within our contract (NEC4, Option A), we have agreed to use CECA rates less a discount and this is the rate that I have charged for my equipment costs with a CE. However, the PM has highlighted the following “Point 8 of … --- ## [NEC ECC: What if the Contractor installs something better than the Works Information?](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-what-if-the-contractor-installs-something-better-than-the-works-information/5954)
**Author:** [@ennzo1](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/u/ennzo1)\ **Replies:** 1\ **Last updated:** [26 June 2020 08:00 UTC](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/t/nec-ecc-what-if-the-contractor-installs-something-better-than-the-works-information/5954 "2020-06-26T08:00:45Z")
If a Contractor provides a more expensive door than what’s written in the Works Information, and the Employer chooses to keep the new expensive door as it reduces maintaining in the future. What is the process that shoul… [Next page](https://reachback.builtintelligence.com/c/nec3-and-nec4-contracts/socc-ssocc/29.md?page=1)